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South Carolina Tournament Results??

Postby Alan Millhone on Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:30 am

Hello:

Months ago I received a beautifully done brochure touting the S.C. Tournament. It was held about the same time as the ACF Youth & National Tournament that was held in Medina,Ohio.

To date I have seen no results or how prizes were distributed ?

Anyone have full results of this tournament. I know it was won by Dr. Dan Ball, President of Lander University.

Sincerely:
Alan Millhone, President
American Checker Federation
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Re: South Carolina Tournament Results??

Postby Mr. Checkers on Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:49 pm

A $150 entry fee probably kept most ACF players away.
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Re: South Carolina Tournament Results??

Postby mday on Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:56 pm

Actually, I think a $150-200 entry fee for a tournament is great. Especially for the National - players travel over 1000 miles anyways spending nearly $500 on the trip anyways....I don't think an extra $150-200 won't be a problem, because this gives more prize money at the end. I think these kind of stakes should be considered, especially for the Masters Division. Masters should be dedicated enough to the tournament to spend $200 to enter if they know the prize money is intrigueing. Perhaps a $200 entry fee for the Masters - $50 for the Majors - and the normal $20-$30 for the Minors. Approximately 20 players enter the Masters division in the National - so that's $4,000 toward the prize fund + donations + initial prize fund built up. I also think the ACF should consider narrowing down the amount of players ''in the money''. I think half the players in each division get prize money - this is way too many. In my opinion, in a 20-player division, only 6-7 should be ''in the money''. The 10,000 (approx. - with $200 entry + donations + initial purse) prize purse distributed to 6-7 players? I think this will give players more determination to do well - as well as a better showing - which means more money!

I think for the ACF to grow, they have to think "money first" for until a goal is set. Has ACF ever considered contacting Fox Sports or ESPN? ESPN shows poker, scrabbe, chess, darts, billiards, bowling, dominoes - but no draughts/checkers? I think a ESPN or a Fox Sports station would consider covering the National in a week-long broadcast. This could eventually lead to sponsorship - which means more money. Giving the excuse "checkers is too boring to watch" is not an excuse! I find poker extremely boring when I'm watching it/playing it in an offline environment - even the pros would agree it's a grind to play 10-12 hour sessions. Poker on TV focuses on the "Big hands" and "Emotional Breakdowns" of players. There really isn't that much action in poker in that 1-hour short amount of time! Checkers, or any board/card game could pull off the same thing on TV. Have the camera/media/commentator/colormen focus on the critical moves/positions/points in a game - with the aid of a commentatry of an experienced checkers player to broadcast with a color man.

Poker got popular from TV, not from the game itself, but how the TV Show was presented, how the players acted and the prize won and loss.

Checkers can do this too.
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Prize Money

Postby liam stephens on Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:36 am

That's a great idea Michael. With a field of, say, 20 players I would not have more than 5 in the prize list. Who should get paid for coming 6th or 7th ? Indeed, if the prize fund were $10,000 as you suggest, I would propose splitting it up $5000, $3000 and $2000 for Ist, 2nd and 3rd respectively. That would add status to the game make it a newsworthy event. Shelling out peanuts will never raise the profile of the game in the eyes of the public or gain sponsorship from the likes of the TV companies.
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Re: South Carolina Tournament Results??

Postby Mr. Checkers on Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:29 pm

A financial sponsor is more likely to come onboard if the checker associations show a willingness to help themselves by matching dollar for dollar any funding given by that sponsor. Done of us have a magic wand or a horn of plenty to call upon for financial help, so if positive things are going to happen for us we must take a more active role in bringing them about. We have that choice--to sit around and allow things to happen to us or to get involved taking an active part in making things happen for us.
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Re: South Carolina Tournament Results??

Postby George Miller on Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:02 am

Michael Daily wrote:Poker got popular from TV, not from the game itself, but how the TV Show was presented, how the players acted and the prize won and loss.


Not so, Poker expanded in popularity due to the internet where Casinos were able to spread all types of game at minimal cost. The online poker industry is huge and lead to the World Series Main Event this year attracting nearly 8,800 players for a prize fund in excess of $80,000,000 (The winner, Jamie Gold got $12,000,000). TV came in when they saw the potential of screening edited highlights (pioneered by UK Channel 4's under the table cameras in "Late Night Poker" in the late 90's).

Checkers will not expand greatly unless it enables players to make a living from it and I don't expect this to happen in my lifetime, if ever. Very few have made any sort of living from checkers - and certainly not a life changing amount ...
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Re: South Carolina Tournament Results??

Postby mday on Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:12 pm

No, ESPN's World Series of Poker caused the "Poker Boom".
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Re: South Carolina Tournament Results??

Postby m stewart on Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:59 pm

I think it would be great if we could get coverage on ESPN for either the
upcoming GAYP Nationals or the World 3 move Championship or
GAYP World Championship.
Our great game would sell itself.
Everybody knows how to play checkers.
The man in the street would know what is going on.
Not everyone knows how to play poker or chess.
Just a thought.
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Re: South Carolina Tournament Results??

Postby Pedro Saavedra on Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:55 am

> I think it would be great if we could get coverage on ESPN for either the
> upcoming GAYP Nationals or the World 3 move Championship or
> GAYP World Championship. Our great game would sell itself.

I would suggest that we consider events at a fast time control (say ten minutes per player per game) if we wanted to attract television live coverage. The alternative is video taping a game, and then combining the game on a computer screen with appropriate shots of the players thinking or moving at appropriate moments. No way that TV would cover events live in real time unless they are faster.
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