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WCM 2005 games review.

Postby Alex_Moiseyev on Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:02 pm

Several months ago 3 moves World Championship took place in Anderson. Just right after match finished, games were release to Internet. Below are couple places, one build by Russian programmers using Turbo Dambase, and another one by Czech players, many thanks to Igor Keder.

http://wcm2005.ceskauniedamy.com/

http://www.shashki.com/applet_rus/wcm2005.htm

Link to these sites also was placed on BBS, but unfortunately yet I didn't see any serious attempt to analyse games.

I propose to fill out this gap and do it here, on ACF forum. I also propose to use diagrams for any comments and analyses.

I plan to post some my analyses here later, but will be very glad to see this dialogue started and moving ahead. Usually any World Championship is hostorical event. It is slways important to understand what happened in match, why one player won and other lost, what strategical concept they used, and learn from this.

Igor Keder also marked with asterisks most interesting games, based on his personal impression.
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Re: WCM 2005 games review.

Postby murray on Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:37 am

Alex please can you send me the PDN for this match?
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Re: WCM 2005 games review.

Postby Alex_Moiseyev on Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:05 pm

murray wrote:Alex please can you send me the PDN for this match?
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Hi, Murray ! If you go to viewer of Russian programmers - you can see at the bottom of screen and viewer link to Download games in PDN file .

Please, let me know if you have problems. I don't have exactly PDN file on my PC, but I am sure many - have it.
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Re: WCM 2005 games review.

Postby matthewkooshad on Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:28 pm

That was some impressive endgame you played in http://wcm2005.ceskauniedamy.com/checkers21.htm Keep up the good playing.

Anyone happen to have http://www.shashki.com/files/wcm2005.rar ? The mirror is down.
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Re: WCM 2005 games review.

Postby Jason Solan on Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:45 pm

I did/do have that file somewhere.
Actually the 2005 WCM games are available to view on this website as well (though no comments).

http://usacheckers.com/show_game_start. ... nt=2005wtm

One of my next goals is to post the PDN for download for all the games that are available to view.

Should be relatively simple, but taking the time to actually code it is something i have trouble doing.

http://www.usacheckers.com/downloads/wcm2005.pdn

that should be the 2005 pdn.... you may have to use a right click and "save as" on the link to download it.


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Re: WCM 2005 games review.

Postby Alex_Moiseyev on Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:45 pm

matthewkooshad wrote:That was some impressive endgame you played


Thanks, sir ! :lol: We are on the same page. From few endings which I won in match, this particular one I like most. 5 or 6 years ago, when I saw this ending first time in the book - I was wondering, if i ever have a chance to play it in my life. Dream was materialized !

I willl annotate this game fully in the next few days, because not only ending, but middlegame also was very interesting. This opening (12-16 22-18 16-19) is considered slightly weak for red, but Mr. King overplayed it somehow.

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Re: WCM 2005 games review.

Postby matthewkooshad on Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:24 am

I thought the same of the opening and Ron, but I did not try to understand the moves. I am not at the level for 3move play yet. I did not know you had learned it from a book. I look forward to seeing your thoughts on it.
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Re: WCM 2005 games review.

Postby tommyc on Tue May 16, 2006 8:23 am

Hi Alex i had a look and your games with Ron K....in Anderson and was pleasently surprised to find you used the Black-Hole line i published on irishdraughts.org in 01.

I think you threw Ron when you played 2622 b4 2419 and he went 710?? into a loss!! instead of 4-8 2419 and back into the pp line.
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Re: WCM 2005 games review.

Postby Alex_Moiseyev on Tue May 16, 2006 9:15 am

tommyc wrote:was pleasently surprised to find you used the Black-Hole line i published on irishdraughts.org in 01.


Hi, Tommy ! I am glad to see that our games with Ron in the past and recently still get an attention of good players and even mail experts :lol: With all my honesty I can prove an obvious fact - in this opening and both games #19/20 in WCM 2005, on my part it was a "free fantasy" from the very beginning ! At this time I wasn't familiar at all with your fine article or most of other analyses.

I don't know if Ron was familiar with PP and your analyses. Everything possible 8)

But don't overestimate mine or Ron abilities and published play knowedlges :P Neither me nor Ron know everything and neither of us can see everything ahead. We are humans only.

Thanks for your comments.

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Re: WCM 2005 games review.

Postby tommyc on Tue May 16, 2006 10:12 am

Yes indeed Alex sometimes i believe you other times in not so sure..... i wodn underestimate the 2 best players in the world.....no ways....maybe us so called Mail experts shod butt-out b/c without prior knowledge you just make it look so easssssssssy!!!!..grrrrrrrrrrrr
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