Selected Positions in Lille, Rd. 6 (Men)

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Selected Positions in Lille, Rd. 6 (Men)

Postby Alex_Moiseyev on Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:42 am

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J. Jolliff vs F. Kareta, G1

It very interesting to see on this example how things turn around n just one move. White last move was 18-15. Instead, simple 18-14* trade should give them medium level advantage rasing significantly pressure on red position thru unbind center.

18-15 move white actually trapped their pieces and 1-6* with following 4-8* in position on diagram should win for red. Instead, red played losing 10-14? giving white pieces freedom and mobility. After 15-11 (22-18 also shoul;d win) I was unable to find a scientific draw for red.

Diagram #1. Red to move ......... Diagram #2. Red to move.
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R. King vs S. Scarpetta, G1

See position on diagram #1. The Kingsrow program opening book recommends here 7-11 as best. It maybe true for program, but it seems a little bit unsafe in my eyes as human, because it gives white a good scope and allow some uncomfortable, unceratin attacks with somehow critical defenses for red.

"The human way" 8-12 as Ron played in position on diagram #1 looks more natural to me and I would probably do the same thing.

After 8-12, 29-25 Ron immediately played losing move 12-16 ??. Instead, 9-13 was correct. What makes the difference ?

1) 12-16 gave white an extra tempo to develop 21-17, 25-21
2) After 21-17, 9-13, 25-21,6-9, 27-24, 20x27, 31x15 as played in game, red can't play 1-6 because of 14-10 WW.

Continue from diagram #1: 8-12, 29-25, 9-13, 21-17 ... and we reached position on diagram #2. I really don't know what scared Ron in this position when he calculated things (did he ?) but the fact is that red has here 3 (!) drawn paths:

1) 6-9, 27-24 (or 25-21, 20-24, 27x20, 1-6 Even), 20x27, 31x15, 1-6 Even
2) 7-10, 14x7, 3x10, 17-14, 19x17, 25-21, 19-23* (2-7 loses) Draw
3) 20-24, 27x20, 6-10 etc Draw

Diagram #1. White to move ........ Diagram #2. White to move
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V. Shafir vs U. Hydyrov, G1

See position on diagram #1 - fine midgame masterpiece. 31-27 here should won the game. With this move white are setting several treatments (25-22, 27-24, 17-13) and red can't avoid all of them. Instead 31-27 white played 25-22 allow red "one second escape" by 11-16 31-27, 6-9* Draw

Red also didn't play it right. Anyway ... continue from diagram #1:

... 25-22 (31-27 WW) 13. 04-08 (11-16 Draw) 17-13 (31-27 WW) 14. 19-24 (8-12 Draw) 28x19 15. 15x24 26-23 16. 11-15 23-19 17. 14-18 22-17 18. 18-23 17-14 19. 10x17 19x10 20. 06x15 21x14 21. 08-12 14-10 (why not 32-28 trap ?) 22. 12-16 10-07 23. 16-20 07-02 24. 24-27 31x24 25. 20x27 02-07 26. 27-31 07-10 27. 15-19 13-09 28. 19-24 ... and they reached position on diagram #2.

9-6? - important wasting time ! 10-15 still kept win in hands not allowing red to crown 2 Kings as happened in the game.

Diagram #1. White to move ....... Diagram #2. Red to move
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S. Thrane vs C. Freeman, G1

Very interesting game where most intrigue things happened at the ending phase of game. I would strongly recommend you to play this attractive game on your own and discover all beauties !

In position on diagram #1 red missed a win 13-9, 32-28, 9-5* Instead, they played 22-26 allow white to break a bridge and escape: 32-28, 26-31, 10-6, 1x10, 20-16, 12x19, 24x6. When I get to this point I decided that unevenful draw is coming and was ready to stop my investigation, but then I looked at result the game and saw that white won it !

I ran several more moves and get into position on diagram #2. Here red played 17-14 ?? and lost after 6-10* with followng 7-11.

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It is 1:40 AM here and I will continue under the same post later.

Coming next ... Igor Martinov in Rd.6, G1 get into losing position with Matteo Bernini the same way (18-22?) I lost it to Michele Borgetti in WCM 2011 ! However details were different. Stay on for late news.
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Re: Selected Positions in Lille, Rd. 6 (Men)

Postby Wavuti Uwepo on Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:23 am

I just want to say a quick thanks to Alex for posting these games with his analysis. Also Palomino, Ingo, Liam, Sune and Tommy for their comments and contributions. These posts teach me much more than a book of dry published play.

Thanks fellas.
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Re: Selected Positions in Lille, Rd. 6 (Men)

Postby Alex_Moiseyev on Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:43 am

Diagram #1. White to move ...... Diagram #2. White to move ..... Diagram #3. Red to move
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G. Owens vs M. Borghetti, G1

See diagram #1. Red just played losing 7-11, which eliminated most or red potential trade columns and created additional holes in red formation. Boring 1-6 here seems to be OK. White can't trap red pieces.

The golden strategical rule says: "whoever control both flanks - controls everything!" But in this position (after 1-6) white controls only right flank and red are free to play eventually on another flank 6-9, 5-9 etc.

In position on diagram #1 Michele first time missed a win by playing 32-28. Instead, 25-22 looks much stronger and suppose to win. For instance ... 2-6, 23-18, 14x23, 27x18 etc WW.

Continue from diagram #1 ... 32-28 (missed a win 25-22*), 2-6 (missed a draw 5-9, 17-13, 2-6 returning to the text of game), 30-26, 5-9 and we reached position diagram #2.

Here is where Michele missed a win 2nd time. 17-13 as played in the game allows only draw and 25-22 is a winng move. Continue after 25-22 ... 9-13, 24-19*, 15x24, 28x19, 11-16, 20x11, 8x24, 27x20, 6-9, 20-16 etc WW

After this red red played it perfectly for many moves and finally they've got position on diagram #3. It is important to mention here that it was red move #25 which is more likely means - one or both players were short of time. At the very end Garret played 26-30 ?? and immediately lost a piece and game after 27-24*

Diagram #1. White to move ...... Diagram #2. Red to move
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J. Morrison vs Bashim Durdyev, G1

See position on diagram #1. Tommy, are you here ? :D With logical order of moves this position should come from opening Gartner Snake: 9-13, 23-19, 10-15, 19x10, 6x15, 26-23, 7-10 ... However in this game it came from Black Hole: 10-14, 22-17, 9-13, 17x10, 6x15, 26-22, 7-10.

White here played 23-19! which seems to me a new. I checked page #108 in Canning Compilations 2nd edition but nothing about this move !

Both players played it perfectly in the next several moves. Continue from diagram #1: 23-19, 11-16, 27-23, 8-11, 30-26, 16-20, 32-27 and now we are in position on diagram #2.

11-16 ?? O no, anything but this ! Either 4-8 (recommended by Kingsrow opening book), 2-7, 1-6 is OK here. Even weak 5-9 not loses. 11-16 seems to be some sort of optical illusion. After 11-16, 22-17 Bashim won a piece and soon - a game.

Diagram #1. Red to move ........ Diagram #2. White to move
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P. Faleo vs B. Durdyev, G1

See position on diagram #1. Classic old Ediburgh known for 100 years. 7-10 here is a PP weak draw but Paolo played losing 1-6? and after several moves they reached postion on diagram #2. Here Bagtiyar won by fine shot: 17-14*, 10x17, 25-21 (or 24-19, 15x24, 27x11, 8x15, 25-21 the same WW), 9-14, 24-19, 15x24, 27x11, 8x15, 23-18* WW

Diagram #1. White to move ...... Diagram #2. White to move ..... Diagram #3. Red to move
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J. Tikhy vs D. Oliphant, G1

This game is sort of collection of independent wonderful masterpieces.

In position on diagram #1 white played 22-18 and missed a win 19-16*, 12x19, 23x7, 2x11, 26-23 etc WW

In position on diagram #2 white played losing 32-27? Instead, 23-19 should draw the game by keeping a bridge and safely crown a King on 4 and come back.

In position on diagram #3 red just missed a chance to finish the game immediately by temporary pitch: 14-17*, 21x14, 19-23, 27x18, 20x27, 18-15, 22-18 WW

Actually this wasn't a last missing in this game because red still had the same win for couple more moves - by returning back King on 22. Instead, red choose a wrong plan to crown another King and missed an important tempo.

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Things are getting slowly. I am stopping here again by finishing selecting positions from Round 6, G1 and 1st game between I. Martinov and Bashim Durdyev from Rd.6 postponed again.
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Re: Selected Positions in Lille, Rd. 6 (Men)

Postby tommyc on Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:25 pm

White here played 23-19! which seems to me a new. I checked page #108 in Canning Compilations 2nd edition but nothing about this move ! Alex.........

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Ive said it often there is still alot of work and new play to find in these NEW ones.................mail/computer play is abt strong strong lines so 23-19 is very poor in this context and to my knowledge i have no record of it ever being played in the Garter Snake and i certainly wouldnt play it against Mac Banks or G.Miller.


As you say after 26-23 ?? from Black Hole [hard opening] now we are into transpose of Garter Snake [mild opening] and when 26-23 is followed by 2319 then its even game. Giving up the strength of Black Hole too easily.Lack of PP thats all. As far as i know neither Jim nor Bashim have a copy of Cannings. DUH.


Its just coming to me now.....................i never ever played Garter Snake it was regarded as too soft for hard deck openings in Mail play.


[Black "Jim Morrison"]
[White "Bashim Durdyev"]
[Event "WMSG"]
[Site "Lille"]
[Round "6.1"]
[Date "2012.8.20"]
[Result "0-2"]
[GameType "21"]

1. 10-14 22-17 2. 09-13 17x10 3. 06x15 26-22 [TRANSPOSING INTO GARTER SNAKE 2623 LINE and destroying the REAL power of the HOLE]4. 07-10 23-19[2318 PP BY Frazier] 5. 11-16 27-23
6. 08-11 30-26 7. 16-20 32-27 8. 11-16[UNFORT BLUNDER] WW 22-17 9. 13x22 25x11 10. 10-14 19-15
11. 01-06 29-25 12. 16-19 23x16 13. 12x19 27-23 14. 20x27 31x24 15. 03-08
23x16 16. 08-12 25-22 17. 12x19 22-17 0-2
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[Black "Bashim Durdyev"]
[White "Jim Morrison"]
[Event "WMSG"]
[Site "Lille"]
[Round "6.2"]
[Date "2012.8.20"]
[Result "1-1"]
[GameType "21"]

In the return game below G2...............in my opinion this 11-16 is very weak if not a loss............What do you think maestro?/


1. 10-14 22-17 2. 09-13 17x10 3. 06x15 26-22.....now into garter snake[2522 OR 2419 IS USUAL PP] 4. 11-16 [this may lose]?
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Re: Selected Positions in Lille, Rd. 6 (Men)

Postby tommyc on Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:52 pm

Well?/..............I was intrigued with the Basim v Richard on the Skunk opening of rd 7.1. on the 21-17 line.........red with winning chances?
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Re: Selected Positions in Lille, Rd. 6 (Men)

Postby Alex_Moiseyev on Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:07 pm

Will continue "Selected ..." series after come back from OH State Tourney in Medina this weekend,
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Re: Selected Positions in Lille, Rd. 6 (Men)

Postby tommyc on Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:39 pm

Well im not intrigued any more.............. rather than being something new and nice ...its a dead DUCK. hMMMM sorry Bashim and me singing yur praises too too soon im afraid. WW............
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