Interesting positions that came up in Copenhagen

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Interesting positions that came up in Copenhagen

Postby MostFamousDane on Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:34 pm

Shot of the tournament



Black to move and win
(taken from game between Sean Phillips vs Graham Young)

Game of the tournament



Quote of the tournament:

(In reference to the fact that the little mermaid has had its head stolen twice): "Well she has only lost her head twice since 1913 that's a lot less than most women"
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Re: Interesting positions that came up in Copenhagen

Postby MostFamousDane on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:52 am

JohnAcker wrote:12-16 is a weak line; white should have capitalized with 32-27 instead of 31-27. But after 31-27 10-15 x 27-24, then 2-7 wins easily for red.


I disagree - I know 32-27 is PP but it is an unusual and illogical looking move. Moves like 22-17 or 29-25 (or the 31-27 taken) look natural but all loses.
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Re: Interesting positions that came up in Copenhagen

Postby MostFamousDane on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:25 am

JohnAcker wrote:If the other moves all lose, then what exactly are you disagreeing with?

Ok let me make my point very clear

9-14
22-18
5-9
25-22 (the weak move, 24-20 is better)
12-16 (very strong move)
24-20
8-12
27-24 (here both 28-24 and 29-25 losses)
10-15
24-19 (29-25 still loses)
15-24
7-10

From here innocent looking moves like 22-17 and 29-25 loses and indeed a losing move was made.

When you said 12-16 is a weak line so I assumed you meant 12-16 was the weak move ???
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Re: Interesting positions that came up in Copenhagen

Postby Alex_Moiseyev on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:34 am

Sune, you didn't say anything about first red move 9-14. Is it weak or not ?

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Re: Interesting positions that came up in Copenhagen

Postby MostFamousDane on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:49 am

Alex_Moiseyev wrote:Sune, you didn't say anything about first red move 9-14. Is it weak or not ?

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Eh ??????????????

The tournament was three move - but assuming it wasn't then 9-14 is weak since 11-15 is better. Do you disagree with my assement ?
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Re: Interesting positions that came up in Copenhagen

Postby Alex_Moiseyev on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:32 pm

MostFamousDane wrote:then 9-14 is weak since 11-15 is better. Do you disagree with my assement ?
Maybe not, it depends on very important fact - who is my opponent :lol:

I did play 12-16 several times on serious occasion, but usually I am using a pitch line:

9-14, 22-18, 5-9, 25-22, 12-16, 24-20, 10-15 (A), 27-24, 15-19, 24x15, 16-19, 23x16, 14x23, 26x19, 11x25, 29x22, 8-12 etc

A. 8-12 looks wreckless to me and goes against my personality :lol:

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Re: Interesting positions that came up in Copenhagen

Postby MostFamousDane on Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:00 pm

Alex_Moiseyev wrote:
MostFamousDane wrote:then 9-14 is weak since 11-15 is better. Do you disagree with my assement ?
Maybe not, it depends on very important fact - who is my opponent :lol:

I did play 12-16 several times on serious occasion, but usually I am using a pitch line:

9-14, 22-18, 5-9, 25-22, 12-16, 24-20, 10-15 (A), 27-24, 15-19, 24x15, 16-19, 23x16, 14x23, 26x19, 11x25, 29x22, 8-12 etc

A. 8-12 looks wreckless to me and goes against my personality :lol:

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You are right 8-12 is wreckless for the opponent and forces him to make a series of star moves to obtain the draw :D

When that is said I also like your line.
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Re: Interesting positions that came up in Copenhagen

Postby Alex_Moiseyev on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:18 pm

MostFamousDane wrote:You are right 8-12 is wreckless for the opponent and forces him to make a series of star moves to obtain the draw :D
You are tough !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K54DPF6asw
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Re: Interesting positions that came up in Copenhagen

Postby MostFamousDane on Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:50 am

Alex_Moiseyev wrote:
MostFamousDane wrote:You are right 8-12 is wreckless for the opponent and forces him to make a series of star moves to obtain the draw :D
You are tough !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K54DPF6asw


LOL - great video - it illustrates the kind of play white has to pull to draw :D
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