3-moves WCM 2013.

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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby Mac Banks on Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:37 pm

John,

Miki lost the ending in Game 1 due to time shortage. Sometimes it happens. Neither player was in
a lost but both lost due to shortage of time.
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby tommyc on Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:27 pm

Mac .......i think white was in a loss on the board anyway. After 24-20 [WEAK]the game jus turns in reds favor and a few weak WHITE moves after saw white in a hopeless ending.Had white played 2419 instead been a different story,is Alex waining??
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby Mac Banks on Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:44 pm

No , Tommy, the ending draws. As a matter of fact, it is a simple draw and Alex
showed Miki the draw after the game.
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby liam stephens on Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:00 pm

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White to play

Hi Mac, Was this the ending ?
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby Mac Banks on Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:48 pm

Hi Liam'

Red's 16th move 7-11 was the loser and 6-10 draws easily but Miki was short on time and moved 7-11
rapidly but it did not draw and Alex saw the draw also. This game like game 31 would have been
drawn if not rushed for time. Sorry , I don't know how to put the checkers into a board as you did.


1. 9-13 24-20 2. 11-16 20x11 3. 7x16 22-18 4. 16-19 23x16 5. 12x19 25-22 6. 5-9 27-24 7.
3-7 24x15 8. 10x19 32-27 9. 7-10 18-15 10. 2-7 22-18 11. 10-14 27-23 12. 8-11 15x8 13. 4x11
23x16 14. 11x20 29-25 15. 14x23 26x19 16. 6-10 *(Draws but he went 7-11 as was rushed for
time.
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby liam stephens on Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:20 pm

Hi Mac,

I thought Tommy was referring to the game Miki won today (Game 31), but you are referring to the first game of the match won by Alex. Sorry - my mistake.
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby tommyc on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:33 pm

Sorry guys i was tlking abt G31................that pos yu show Liam .......DOES IT DRAW LIAM/?

And Mac..............in G1 7-11 loses and 6-10 drs as yu said Mac.
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby Mac Banks on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:34 pm

Hi Liam,

Yes, I was talking about game 1. Yes, Alex lost game 31 because of time pressure but
Miki also lost due to time pressure. That was my point to Tommy. Tommy was saying that Miki
was already in a loss but he wasn't until the 7-11 move. Miki is playing a lot of variations that
Sergio says comes from the Italian game which is original and not played in the American game
so Alex is playing crossboard for the most part. Alex played game 32 very well but he played
game 31 awful as he really had a slight advantage and his 2420 was not as good as 2419 would
have been. The pitch completely destroyed his game. Hope I can stay up tonight and watch
the next 4 games.
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby Mac Banks on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:37 pm

Hi Tommy,

Now we are talking apples and apples. Sorry for the confusion. Still hope dear
friend that someday you will be able to visit Las Vegas. My wife and I would welcome
you as our guest. By the way, they have an Irish Bar I could take you too.

Your friend,
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby tommyc on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:53 pm

HAHAAH APPLES AND PEARS INDEED MAC..........i meant in G31 Alex in my opinion was in a loss and didnt lose on time and as i posted and yu agree his 2420 was pretty bad.........anyway nuf of that Las Vegas...hmmmmm what a nice idea would be alright for a few wks...hehehe.

Yu think G31 draws in that ending ??
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby tommyc on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:55 pm

Going upmarket now with an Irish Bar.................."Las Vegas in the HIlls of Donegal"..........thats the name of a song ,look it up on youtube Mac.
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Skullcracker Question

Postby Richard Pask on Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:49 am

Hello!

Can someone with access to the 10-piece databases tell me if the 3-8 defence (as compared with the standard 3-7 used in the current WCM) used by Chinook v MFT draws or not? I certainly wouldn't recommend it, but as I'm currently compiling my revised version of the Skullcracker for 21st CC, the 10-15s, I'd really appreciate knowing the definitive answer.

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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby Mac Banks on Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:11 am

Hi Richard,

I think this is the play you are talking about. I think 3-8 will draw but I never would make that move.
Here is the play for you.

1. 10-15 22-17 2. 15-19 24x15 3. 11x18 23x14 4. 9x18 26-23 5. 6-9 23x14 6. 9x18 30-26 7.
5-9 17-14 8. 9-13 26-23 9. 1-5 28-24 10. 8-11 24-20 11. 11-15 21-17 12. 13x22 27-24 13.
18x27 25x11 14. 7x16 32x23 15. 3-8(A)20x11 16. 8x15 23-19 17. 15-18 24-20 18. 2-7 29-25 19.
7-11 31-27 20. 4-8 25-21 21. 18-22 27-23 22. 22-25 23-18 23. 25-30 14-10 24. 30-26 10-7
25. 26-23 18-15 26. 11x18 7-2 27. 23x16 20x4 28. 18-22 4-8 29. 12-16 8-11 30. 16-20 11-15
31. 20-24 2-6 32. 24-27 15-18 33. 22-25 18-22 34. 25-30 21-17 35. 27-32 1/2-1/2

(A) I don't like this move at all. Hope this is what you were asking. Glad to see you back
from your illness.
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby Michael Holmes on Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:06 am

Or you could vary a little here at the end.
1. 10-15 22-17 2. 15-19 24x15 3. 11x18 23x14 4. 9x18 26-23 5. 6-9 23x14 6. 9x18 30-26 7.
5-9 17-14 8. 9-13 26-23 9. 1-5 28-24 10. 8-11 24-20 11. 11-15 21-17 12. 13x22 27-24 13.
18x27 25x11 14. 7x16 32x23 15. 3-8 {A} 20x11 16. 8x15 23-19 17. 15-18 24-20 18. 2-7 19-15 19.
7-11 15x8 20. 4x11 29-25 21. 18-23 1/2-1/2
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Re: 3-moves WCM 2013.

Postby Hugh Devlin on Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:56 am

Well done to all involved. Indeed its a big moment when a World Title changes hands and my thoughts are with Alex at this time who has had a glorious reign and done much to promote the game and World title.

However, now we have our "Seventh" World 3 Move Champion of the modern era and I'm sure this transition of title will have positive effects and do much to elevate the game in Italy and mainland Europe. Hail King Miki!
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